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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:46:00 -
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Isn't there a separate section for corp recruitment?
I can see trying to "help" players, but starting your post and thread with links to your corp site? Really?
Hopefully a GM will move this to the section it belongs in. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:52:00 -
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Why would anyone want to join a dust "training" corp run by people who don't play fps games? @.@
It's like me joining a corp in Eve to learn about Eve
by Call of Duty players who have never played a MMO.
edit: do you even have a presence in dust? I haven't seen any of you in battle, yet you keep making all these posts on forums about how to play. How can you teach others how to play when you spend more time on forums than playing the game |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:49:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:So I am new to Dust. Am I understanding correctly that I can join a squad of other DUST University members and then when I sign up for an Instant Battle the people in that squad will get assigned to the same battle? Or is it the squad commander that queGÇÖs up the squad? How does the mechanic work? How do I join a squad of other DUST University members? I saw about seven DUST University members on this morning when I was playing in the last hour before down time, but I was not sure how to go about playing with them, so I just signed up for an Instant Battle solo.
So much for DU teaching their members even the basics.
Fox Gaden wrote:I assume that during the B[e]ta the DUST University members will be working on learning the game themselves so that when Dust officially launches DUST University will be able to offer experienced guidance
Word of advice: RUN! I don't understand how people can even pretend to know how to teach new players to play when they can't play the game themselves. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
Why aren't the forums good enough for advice anyways? I see junk about "private forums" with good information. Most of the information on public Dust forums is good information. How can you possibly have anything better?
Joining a corp to learn how to play is a good idea. I'm sure EUni is fine in Eve, but here... Knowing how to play an FPS is much more important than knowing how to play dust or eve.
Corp recruitment forum can be found here.
edit: I wouldn't have said all this if you only posted it in corp recruitment, but you didn't. You posted it here. The purpose of the training ground is to help new players get better, and I see this as making them worse. There is plenty of good information already in the training section on forums. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:30:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Elitism is the very last thing we want.
It's the last thing I want too. People who come on to forums claiming that they are the best and know the best way to teach others how to play are elitist. When people ask me questions about how to play on forums, I try to give them the best advice I can. While I'm in game, I direct them to people who know how to play better than I.
Kevall Longstride wrote:We [Dust University] are currently in the process of providing a private discussion forum for our members but I feel a public forum would be a good idea for both Veterans of the closed beta and those newer players joining from the open beta to come together.
I thought you said you didn't like elitism? DUST members already have a public forum for both veterans and newer players, and you're on it. There's no reason for anyone to join your elitist club when they can learn far more on these forums and in game.
I know my corp tag is intimidating. I know that my being Pink and Fluffy can sometimes scare other players, and might prompt them to believe that I am /-\|\| 31337!5+ _|3|2|<, but damn, I'm really not that scary or elitist at all, I swear! |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:48:00 -
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I guess this comes from a FPS gaming mentality. When I want to learn how to become good at a game, I watch how the best players play, and then ask them what they do. Sometimes they freely give away their information, sometimes they don't want to, but it can't hurt.
IMO you'll get far more from watching a good youtube video from a good player than you will from reading forum posts for hours.
The thing that can hurt you is learning how to play from someone who cannot play. Everyone knows that bad habits are hard to break, and it's true for gaming too. Dust is different from other FPS games, but it is still a FPS game.
Kevall Longstride wrote:In fact, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if in two years you could have a successful Merc that doesn't even fire a shot.
Well, I hope that is not the case, but I suppose it could happen. I'd rather try to improve my FPS skills.
I think every new player should also notice that the >best< players almost never post in these forums. Most of the people who post here are (I include myself in this group ;) competent players, but not the best. We give the best advice we can to get players started, but if they want to learn from the best, they need to do that in game. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.02.01 23:10:00 -
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Badwolf Jones wrote:
2. Will you require guest lecturers (a vocal member from PFBHz perhaps?) to come forward and give classes on specialist fields etc?
D: if you guys are serious about helping noobs, I can volunteer ^_^. I'm not the best, but I'm not a noob :p.
I get worried when I see the EVE guys posting training "advice". I have seen the posts they make on forums and how most of them play, and it is not pretty. There might be some good players coming to DUST from EVE with little FPS experience, but they are almost impossible to find.
Here's some basic stuff you need to get your peeps to do:
imo the first thing you have to do is make them adjust the sensitivity on their mouse or controller. It's something many fps players do. This strategy can help you practice aiming too, but most FPS players just adjust sensitivity because they can already aim. Some may just do it on the fly in the game, but an easy way I've found is this:
> Set up a build with an assault rifle and nanohive (scout or assault, but preferably scout)
> Get into a skirmish match with a big and safe redzone
> Find a skinny pole (smaller than a clone's head)
> Get 30+ meters away from the pole
> Shoot the pole at head height (after every 15-20 rounds quickly release trigger and then hit it again to break kick)
> While shooting, hold left or right on your controller or on your keyboard.
- at this point you should be moving sideways (strafing) while shooting the pole at head height (aiming). To keep your sights on the pole, you should have to move your controller's stick or mouse sideways too. Adjust sensitivity/(practice?) until all of your shots hit the pole at head height.
> The next thing you can do is pair up with someone, and have him strafe. This time don't touch the right stick of your controller or move your mouse, and just aim by strafing alone.
I think no FPS players posted something like this because aiming just seems like a basic skill. Playing a FPS game without aiming? It makes no sense, but for some reason it's something that many players here have a problem doing. Almost every gamer likes a different sensitivity setting, so you need to find out what works for you. If you can't even hit a stationary target .
@ longer ranges you might want to change how long you make your bursts. The AR skill changes this too, but personally I wouldn't go too far into that while starting.
Of course practice makes perfect too. Best to do small maps (like the current Taipei ambush map) and play aggressively. You're not going to get better if you spend all your time hiding and running away. Hip fire works @ close range, but personally I try to use it as little as possible. Headshots ftw.
While using an assault rifle with all militia gear, if you're able to strafe, aim, and use cover, you should be able to kill 90% of the people on here (right now) with no points in weaponry or anything else related to infantry skills. Yes, it's that easy.
Also, you should do "lectures" while in a game. You're not learning anything in a FPS game if you're not shooting. |
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